gccube
07-19 02:29 AM
I personally believe that PD is more significant than the RD but it makes sense to me that RD may take precedence if the PD is current (as suggested by some members of the forum).
But if we think that at all times RD is the order they process them what would happen in this scenario
1. A guy with 2001 PD filed later and was 750,000 th guy in the queue of AOS applications.
2. After accepting all the apps USCIS retrogressed the dates to 2002 Jan. That means that USCIS is asking for AOS apps which satisfy this PD. That means that a visa no is available as of that date for adjudication so the first new application received(after they are retrogressed) will be 750,001 th application.
3. If RD is the only processing order at all times then 750,001th application will not be sent to an officer for review until all other 750,000 th applications with a better RD are processed.
4. Assuming that this takes 3 years (for example) then they are accepting an application today which they are not going to even look at in the next three years and this is not making sense to me.
5. If they are accepting the 750,001 th application because that application qualifies for a visa no then that should be processed before the other applications(barring for special cases FBi name check issues, RFEs etc). This means PD comes into picture when there is retrogression. So then they have to apply the same rule for the I-485 applications which are pending with them. They some how have to order them on the PD and I assume this should not be rocket science for them as that data is part of our AOS applications.
Thanks everyone for your inputs.
But if we think that at all times RD is the order they process them what would happen in this scenario
1. A guy with 2001 PD filed later and was 750,000 th guy in the queue of AOS applications.
2. After accepting all the apps USCIS retrogressed the dates to 2002 Jan. That means that USCIS is asking for AOS apps which satisfy this PD. That means that a visa no is available as of that date for adjudication so the first new application received(after they are retrogressed) will be 750,001 th application.
3. If RD is the only processing order at all times then 750,001th application will not be sent to an officer for review until all other 750,000 th applications with a better RD are processed.
4. Assuming that this takes 3 years (for example) then they are accepting an application today which they are not going to even look at in the next three years and this is not making sense to me.
5. If they are accepting the 750,001 th application because that application qualifies for a visa no then that should be processed before the other applications(barring for special cases FBi name check issues, RFEs etc). This means PD comes into picture when there is retrogression. So then they have to apply the same rule for the I-485 applications which are pending with them. They some how have to order them on the PD and I assume this should not be rocket science for them as that data is part of our AOS applications.
Thanks everyone for your inputs.
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485Mbe4001
06-10 12:07 PM
Recapture is actually a non controvertial issue and most politicians support it in private. The business lobby was sucessful in getting it done (btw the democrats opposed it even then). These days we have the sword of 'amnesty' hanging over everything related to immigration plus the positions are so polarized that it is impossible to get anything done. The lame duck presidency isnt helping either, each congressman/senator has to worry about its own agenda and their people.
With the internet every little bit of information is distributed immediately and the opposing forces can easly create noise to drown it...that in a nutshell is why nothing is working for us.
As mpadapa mentions people satisfied with EAD/AP think that life is good and dont want to help. When people wait in EB3 for 7-8 years and renew EAD/AP for 4-5 times like i have, they will understand. Untill then we hope and pray and call
Visa numbers have been recaptured in the past (year 2000, I think).
Do we know more details on how this happened? Who worked for this and what did they do to make their efforts successful?
Same with the AC21 provision that allows changing jobs after 180 days. That is a huge accomplishment for whoever worked to make it happen.
Perhaps we can borrow some of their wisdom.
With the internet every little bit of information is distributed immediately and the opposing forces can easly create noise to drown it...that in a nutshell is why nothing is working for us.
As mpadapa mentions people satisfied with EAD/AP think that life is good and dont want to help. When people wait in EB3 for 7-8 years and renew EAD/AP for 4-5 times like i have, they will understand. Untill then we hope and pray and call
Visa numbers have been recaptured in the past (year 2000, I think).
Do we know more details on how this happened? Who worked for this and what did they do to make their efforts successful?
Same with the AC21 provision that allows changing jobs after 180 days. That is a huge accomplishment for whoever worked to make it happen.
Perhaps we can borrow some of their wisdom.
gk_2000
08-23 10:50 PM
Then why you are fighting for the spill over rules as they stand. Because its going to help you :confused:
Read all the pages and let us know where anyone is stating to close the program. All we are saying is to close the loophole.
Context is everything
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
Read all the pages and let us know where anyone is stating to close the program. All we are saying is to close the loophole.
Context is everything
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
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snathan
08-24 01:51 PM
So this actually supports my point. There is no "loophole" to close.
I recommend my friends snathan and swissgear to avoid actions based on jealousy over people just like yourself. But hurting them you hurt yourself
Giving reds - is that the only thing you can do? Do you want more "helpful" posts from me? I wish to avoid the specifics of your arguments or rebukes, as they are not important here, so if my replies are not "helpful" then perhaps your arguments are irrelevant to begin with
First be clear whats your point and then enlighten us how this supports it
Please let me know how this so called multinational executives are getting compensated. Whats the stock/option given to these executives. The available information shows only three days of extended stay and one week of car which they need to share with other executives. Fortunately the extended stay suites come with attached rest room. Otherwise they need to share with other multinational executives. There would be long queue in front of the shared room and eventual back log...
Yeap...we are very envious about this. Let it be.
I am least bothered about how/what they are paying to their executives. when they are exploiting the system, its you and me are the one getting affacted. Otherwise these would have trickled down as spillover.
I am not going to post anything on this any more and feeding the troll.
I recommend my friends snathan and swissgear to avoid actions based on jealousy over people just like yourself. But hurting them you hurt yourself
Giving reds - is that the only thing you can do? Do you want more "helpful" posts from me? I wish to avoid the specifics of your arguments or rebukes, as they are not important here, so if my replies are not "helpful" then perhaps your arguments are irrelevant to begin with
First be clear whats your point and then enlighten us how this supports it
Please let me know how this so called multinational executives are getting compensated. Whats the stock/option given to these executives. The available information shows only three days of extended stay and one week of car which they need to share with other executives. Fortunately the extended stay suites come with attached rest room. Otherwise they need to share with other multinational executives. There would be long queue in front of the shared room and eventual back log...
Yeap...we are very envious about this. Let it be.
I am least bothered about how/what they are paying to their executives. when they are exploiting the system, its you and me are the one getting affacted. Otherwise these would have trickled down as spillover.
I am not going to post anything on this any more and feeding the troll.
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insbaby
09-01 10:07 AM
Arrived 2000-February
1st Labor - 2003 - Company A (RIR)
2nd Labor - 2004 - Company B (RIR) (no one knows where it went)
3rd Labor - 2006 - Company B (PERM)
Managed to get a seat in 07-2007 bus
Still sleeping in the bus. Don't know when I reach the destination.
Even if life ends before the journey completes, the corpse will continue the travel until it gets the GC.
(not sure if AC-21s are applicable for corpses)
Poor EB3-I s, they have to travel with many corpses...
1st Labor - 2003 - Company A (RIR)
2nd Labor - 2004 - Company B (RIR) (no one knows where it went)
3rd Labor - 2006 - Company B (PERM)
Managed to get a seat in 07-2007 bus
Still sleeping in the bus. Don't know when I reach the destination.
Even if life ends before the journey completes, the corpse will continue the travel until it gets the GC.
(not sure if AC-21s are applicable for corpses)
Poor EB3-I s, they have to travel with many corpses...
uma001
09-27 09:44 AM
Landed on 03/1997 on H1B. Didn't file for GC until 2003 as plan was to work for 2-3 years, get into an MBA program, and then go back.
MBA resulted in loans of $120K which in turn meant spending some more time in the US which resulted in buying a house which resulted in even bigger loan.
Now living the American "dream" on EAD.
You must be earning more than the debts you have from MBA per year. With that you should have paid the loans.
MBA resulted in loans of $120K which in turn meant spending some more time in the US which resulted in buying a house which resulted in even bigger loan.
Now living the American "dream" on EAD.
You must be earning more than the debts you have from MBA per year. With that you should have paid the loans.
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Raju
07-06 02:05 PM
i think they did revise it on July 2nd..didnt they?
But when they revised it on July 2nd they took the original VB offline. Now they bring the original VB back online and they are asking folks look at both of them together.
But when they revised it on July 2nd they took the original VB offline. Now they bring the original VB back online and they are asking folks look at both of them together.
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gonecrazyonh4
04-25 08:52 PM
We stood in the backlog queue. 3 years. 4 years. Now, we are standing in the I-485 adjustment of status (to apply) queue.
Neither the USCIS nor anyone else have real hard numbers of how many are in each in queue. So, what makes you think that you will NOT be stranded again, like us, in the latter queue. Let me tell you; things are not pretty. PERM has eased or will ease LCs and backlogs. The attempt at IV will help folks affected by retrogression take less years to apply for I-485.
I dont expect the wait to be any less longer .. But I would surely welcome priority date being based on H1 start date as it would be more fair method
Neither the USCIS nor anyone else have real hard numbers of how many are in each in queue. So, what makes you think that you will NOT be stranded again, like us, in the latter queue. Let me tell you; things are not pretty. PERM has eased or will ease LCs and backlogs. The attempt at IV will help folks affected by retrogression take less years to apply for I-485.
I dont expect the wait to be any less longer .. But I would surely welcome priority date being based on H1 start date as it would be more fair method
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conchshell
09-30 11:26 PM
Guys don't you think that once again flooding USCIS with flowers/shame-card as a protest is a good idea ??
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r_mistry
12-27 01:05 PM
I applied I-485/EAD/AP on July 24th at Nebraska. Have received EAD and FP done but AP is still pending.
I noticed couple of soft LUDS on my I-140 (which was approved in Dec, 2006) and I-485 in last few days but nothing on AP. My PD is Oct, 2005 ROW.
Still waiting.......
I noticed couple of soft LUDS on my I-140 (which was approved in Dec, 2006) and I-485 in last few days but nothing on AP. My PD is Oct, 2005 ROW.
Still waiting.......
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manderson
12-28 06:31 PM
After some point we need to ask USCIS to update the processing times to reflect this long delay, or take legal action or whatever to expedite this...
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JunRN
09-30 03:34 PM
Don't expect anything from Nebraska Service Center today. Somebody from who live few minutes away from NSC said that the parking lot at NSC is empty today. Yesterday, she saw that it was full from 7 to 12 nn but was empty in the afternoon.
What we can expect is only automatic LUDs. No overtime work for NSC. Have they used up all the FY2007 visas? They must have....if not, this fact can be used against them when we file a complain.
What we can expect is only automatic LUDs. No overtime work for NSC. Have they used up all the FY2007 visas? They must have....if not, this fact can be used against them when we file a complain.
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bpratap
05-15 06:23 PM
I am also working on a FHA (4.875%) with GMAC with 3.5% down.
Wife's H4 was an issue, but that got cleared
Now the last thing is they are asking for 3 yr Continous VISA from the date of closing.
How did U convince the Bank to accept the H1 +485 stage
U can send a PM abt it
Wife's H4 was an issue, but that got cleared
Now the last thing is they are asking for 3 yr Continous VISA from the date of closing.
How did U convince the Bank to accept the H1 +485 stage
U can send a PM abt it
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485Mbe4001
07-21 01:46 PM
It is certainly a good deal that we are able to file for 485 and we can enjoy the benefits of EAD/AP.
Mark my words...when apply to renew your EAD and you are not sure if spouse can work when one EAD has expired and the other is in the process of being approved you will realize what we are trying to say...after you keep applying to renew AP/EAD 3-4...one beings to wonder if it was all worth it.
In short, after we file our 485/EAD/APs we should work with IV and try to lobby for better laws...we should not be complacent and think our work is done, we crossed a small hurdle thats all.
Stop Showing These Numbers, Assumptions... Alright You're Good In Mathematics.. #@#~! Vb Or C#... Whatever... Give Those People At Uscis The Benefit Of The Doubt... I Think They're Not That Dumb Like What You Think... Maybe You're Not Happy With You're Employer...cant Wait To Leave...
Mark my words...when apply to renew your EAD and you are not sure if spouse can work when one EAD has expired and the other is in the process of being approved you will realize what we are trying to say...after you keep applying to renew AP/EAD 3-4...one beings to wonder if it was all worth it.
In short, after we file our 485/EAD/APs we should work with IV and try to lobby for better laws...we should not be complacent and think our work is done, we crossed a small hurdle thats all.
Stop Showing These Numbers, Assumptions... Alright You're Good In Mathematics.. #@#~! Vb Or C#... Whatever... Give Those People At Uscis The Benefit Of The Doubt... I Think They're Not That Dumb Like What You Think... Maybe You're Not Happy With You're Employer...cant Wait To Leave...
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GC_for_andy
06-29 03:47 PM
I was kind of oblivious and busy in my work since I applied labor �and was thinking everything will fall in place gradually..
I registered to this site today and just read this forum.. ..and �..simply freaking out �
My attorney applied my Labor in Nov 2006 (according to him) in Atlanta and I still don�t have any response �no audit �.nothing �.it is just in process�can u believe it?
� can I do something from my end �
I hope 140 and 485 is still not in retrogression state �. Do u guys know how long it will continue to be in this state�
I registered to this site today and just read this forum.. ..and �..simply freaking out �
My attorney applied my Labor in Nov 2006 (according to him) in Atlanta and I still don�t have any response �no audit �.nothing �.it is just in process�can u believe it?
� can I do something from my end �
I hope 140 and 485 is still not in retrogression state �. Do u guys know how long it will continue to be in this state�
r_mistry
01-03 12:05 PM
If they are processing september 16th then we should have received our APs long time ago.
Please provide me the info on contacting NSC. I need to find out what's going on with my application
Thanks for your help !!!
Please provide me the info on contacting NSC. I need to find out what's going on with my application
Thanks for your help !!!
vbkris77
02-26 02:39 PM
Here is how I came up with that analysis. Last year they made changes to give GC for those stuck in FBI name check if they passed 180 days. So most of the ROW got their GC last year. There were not many labors approved from 2008. So there is no demand from EB2 ROW this year. With the economy going down, not many would get EB1s either. I don't anticipate many EB5s either this year. So major chunk of EB visas will need to come to EB2I/C. Will CIS do that or not is a different story.
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